text model comparison
Gemini 4 Argon vs Qwen3.8-Max
Gemini 4 Argon and Qwen3.8-Max are both current text models, from Google and Alibaba Qwen. Both cost $2 per 1M input tokens. On Arena Text, Gemini 4 Argon scores 1525 Elo and Qwen3.8-Max 1483 Elo (Arena, measured October 8, 2026).
Data verified October 13, 2026 · Dataset 2026-10-13
Side by side
Standard-tier prices in effect today. The better value in each row is highlighted.
| Fact | Gemini 4 Argon | Qwen3.8-Max |
|---|---|---|
| Price per 1M input tokens | $2 | $2 |
| Price per 1M output tokens | $10 | $6 (better) |
| Cost of 10M input and 2M output tokens | $40 | $32 (better) |
| Arena Text | 1525 Elo (#1 of 49) (better) | 1483 Elo (#13 of 49) |
| GPQA Diamond | Not measured | 92.7% (#17 of 40) |
| FrontierMath Tiers 1-3 (v2) | Not measured | 74.7% (#17 of 40) |
| SimpleQA Verified | Not measured | 45.8% (#23 of 36) |
| Provider | Alibaba Qwen | |
| Release date | September 30, 2026 | August 2, 2026 |
| Access | API only | API only |
| Context window | Not reported | 1,000,000 tokens |
| Max output | 1,000,000 tokens | 131,072 tokens |
| Input | text, image, video | text, image, video |
| Output | text | text |
When to choose each
Gemini 4 Argon
Best for
- Long-horizon coding and knowledge work once it reaches general API access
Watch out for
- Access is limited: Google is rolling it out first to cyber defenders in its Fairwind Program, and no Gemini API model id or pricing page entry exists yet
- The $2 input and $10 output rate is introductory with no end date; Google says $4 and $20 per 1M tokens applies afterwards
- Google has not published the context window
Qwen3.8-Max
Best for
- Output-heavy generation workloads where the $6 per million output rate is the deciding factor
- Agentic and coding evaluations that need a 1M-token window at mid-tier cost
Watch out for
- Two releases share the name: the original 2 August 2026 model and the 0902 refresh, a separate id at the same price
- The recorded rates are the international (Singapore) price; the Global and Beijing listings charge $1.65 input and $4.951 output per 1M tokens
- Alibaba publishes no fixed cached-input rate for it
Gemini 4 Argon vs Qwen3.8-Max FAQ
Which is cheaper, Gemini 4 Argon or Qwen3.8-Max?
Both cost $2 per 1M input tokens. For 10M input and 2M output tokens, Gemini 4 Argon costs $40 and Qwen3.8-Max $32 at standard rates.
Which scores higher on independent benchmarks, Gemini 4 Argon or Qwen3.8-Max?
Gemini 4 Argon leads on Arena Text, 1525 Elo to 1483 Elo. Scores are independent evaluations, not either vendor's launch figures.
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Production evaluation
Choosing between Gemini 4 Argon and Qwen3.8-Max?
Public benchmarks narrow the shortlist. We run both on your own tasks, data and cost limits, then build the routing and review controls to run the winner in production.
- A head-to-head evaluation on your real workload
- Routing between models by cost and difficulty